Gill and his shear thrills.

gill998 · 02-23-2008, 08:39 PM

It's time I made a log, with your guys help I hope I will be able to stick with a somewhat regular routine. I am planning on going with a 4 day split; back/bi, chest/tri, legs/?shoulders?, rest/run/heavybag. Leg day will be short, that's why I tossed shoulders in there, it may not be a good idea but I'll see as I go.

I will get some measurements and weight tomorrow maybe.

On to todays workout.

BB Rows
105 x 5
105 x 5

DB Rows
55 x 9
55 x 9

BB Shrugs
135 x 8
135 x 8

BB Curls
55 x 8
55 x 7

Deadlifts
185 x 8
185 x 10

Comments:- Took 45 mins.
- I was going slow to try and get form down so weights and number of sets are low. (especially on the shrugs) plus I was making the routine up as I went.
- I did do Warm up sets however I never thought to write anything down at the time.
- My arms were failing on BB rows before I felt anything in my back, thus the DB rows were added.

If anyone has suggestions please share, I'm making this routine up on the fly.

Reps if someone comes up with a better title, because the one I have now doesn't make much sense.

GBLynden · 02-23-2008, 08:43 PM

That's a good start. I suggest backing off on all weights and doing high reps until you are making a strong mind and muscle connection with excellent pumps really feeling it in the target muscle group. At that point, slowly increase the weights using the progressive overload principle.

"Gill and his thrilling workout journal"
"Gill the thrill, witness it as it unfolds"
"Gill and his shreak and shrill workout journal"

gill998 · 02-23-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GBLynden

That's a good start. I suggest backing off on all weights and doing high reps until you are making a strong mind and muscle connection with excellent pumps really feeling it in the target muscle group. At that point, slowly increase the weights using the progressive overload principle.

"Gill and his thrilling workout journal"
"Gill the thrill, witness it as it unfolds"
"Gill and his shreak and shrill workout journal"

solid advice. The last couple times I've tried getting into a routine I was aiming for a 5x5 program type deal but I have realized that pushing heavy weights (without results) is all about ego, so I will definitely move to higher reps may take some time to get used to it though.

nice names.

XiL3 · 02-23-2008, 09:21 PM

Hey your split looks fine, shoulders and legs are a pretty good combo...the only thing I don't like is that you wouldn't be putting maximum emphasis on one of them...so if you start with squats, you'll be having great gains there but not as great on overhead press and vice verca, I've always noticed that people who don't have shoulders on their own day have a big gap between their bench and overhead press.

gill998 · 02-23-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XiL3

Hey your split looks fine, shoulders and legs are a pretty good combo...the only thing I don't like is that you wouldn't be putting maximum emphasis on one of them...so if you start with squats, you'll be having great gains there but not as great on overhead press and vice verca, I've always noticed that people who don't have shoulders on their own day have a big gap between their bench and overhead press.

would it be okay if I was to move shoulders to the rest day and not have a rest day? I will be taking days off throughout the routine as I work long/hard and firewood season is starting (700 cords are waiting to be split). Plus I lift at home in a main room and my sister has friends over for entire days/weekends fairly often, and I dont really want to lift with all those female eyes on me, just yet....

XiL3 · 02-23-2008, 09:35 PM

Well you can take the other 3 days of the week off, if you're working hard then just skip the cardio.

GBLynden · 02-23-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gill998

would it be okay if I was to move shoulders to the rest day and not have a rest day? I will be taking days off throughout the routine as I work long/hard and firewood season is starting (700 cords are waiting to be split). Plus I lift at home in a main room and my sister has friends over for entire days/weekends fairly often, and I dont really want to lift with all those female eyes on me, just yet....

How old are you and your sister's friends? My sister was two years younger and it was something I benefited from for sure

You need mandatory rest days. You muscles don't grow if your body doesn't have time to rest. Eventually, it will catch up with you. There were periods of time where I was training 6-7 days a week. In hindsight, that was a big mistake.

gill998 · 02-23-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GBLynden

How old are you and your sister's friends? My sister was two years younger and it was something I benefited from for sure

You need mandatory rest days. You muscles don't grow if your body doesn't have time to rest. Eventually, it will catch up with you. There were periods of time where I was training 6-7 days a week. In hindsight, that was a big mistake.

I'm 17, sisters 2 years younger too!

looks like xil3 agrees with the rest days, so I'll definitely take some off as I need/ life forces, but if I take too long off without a good explanation neg me or something

TROJANNATION · 02-23-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gill998

would it be okay if I was to move shoulders to the rest day and not have a rest day? I will be taking days off throughout the routine as I work long/hard and firewood season is starting (700 cords are waiting to be split). Plus I lift at home in a main room and my sister has friends over for entire days/weekends fairly often, and I dont really want to lift with all those female eyes on me, just yet....

I would continue with the split the way you have it now... Shoulders also get worked on your back and chest workouts, and I don't think you need to be putting a lot of effort into them right now. They will be fine paired up with legs IMO. Later on you may want to go to a more advanced split and give shoulders their own day, but I wouldn't worry about that right now. You definitely need that day off occasionally, so don't remove that from your schedule.
I still don't do any presses on shoulder days because they get worked well from my chest and back workouts. Also splitting wood and running a chainsaw is a great workout for the delts and traps.

gill998 · 02-23-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TROJANNATION

I would continue with the split the way you have it now... Shoulders also get worked on your back and chest workouts, and I don't think you need to be putting a lot of effort into them right now. They will be fine paired up with legs IMO. Later on you may want to go to a more advanced split and give shoulders their own day, but I wouldn't worry about that right now. You definitely need that day off occasionally, so don't remove that from your schedule.
I still don't do any presses on shoulder days because they get worked well from my chest and back workouts. Also splitting wood and running a chainsaw is a great workout for the delts and traps.

I think I might try both; shoulders with legs and shoulders on their own day, and see if it effects the quality of the work out. I don't plan on working either muscle group too hard because of lack of equipment at the time, just numerous sets of hack squats, and presses possibly lateral raises.

I love running a saw for the whole body workout, but I don't really like the dangers, especially when you do it for a long time and lose focus. I got my finger caught in between the block and the backstop while splitting, luckily I stopped the splitter in time and all I lost was my finger nail. Another time I was standing on top of the pile(~7' off the ground) cutting up (I was half asleep) when the saw kicked, and I fell down most of the pile, although I did manage to stay on my feet.
Wow I dont know why I typed that, meh whatever.

TROJANNATION · 02-23-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gill998

I think I might try both; shoulders with legs and shoulders on their own day, and see if it effects the quality of the work out. I don't plan on working either muscle group too hard because of lack of equipment at the time, just numerous sets of hack squats, and presses possibly lateral raises.

I love running a saw for the whole body workout, but I don't really like the dangers, especially when you do it for a long time and lose focus. I got my finger caught in between the block and the backstop while splitting, luckily I stopped the splitter in time and all I lost was my finger nail. Another time I was standing on top of the pile(~7' off the ground) cutting up (I was half asleep) when the saw kicked, and I fell down most of the pile, although I did manage to stay on my feet.
Wow I dont know why I typed that, meh whatever.

I was on the saw team when I was with the hotshots, and saw boss when I came to my current crew. Running the saw for 12-14 hours a day is the best trap workout I've ever had.

gill998 · 02-24-2008, 01:16 PM

Measurements (R,L)

Arms: 13.1 , 12.6
forearms 11.3
waist 31.5
chest 39.3 (across nipples(no homo))
Calf's 13.5
quads I wasnt sure where to measure them so I took from above the knee, just into teardrop. 17.5 , 18
AND just below the groin 22.5 , 22
Where is the correct spot?

gill998 · 02-26-2008, 11:19 PM

Chest/tris

BB Bench
35 x 12
55 x 10
75 x 9
75 x 8
75 x 10
75 x 8
75 x 7

Laying Triceps Extensions
35 x 7
35 x 8
35 x 7 *I tried for 8 but the bar wouldn't leave my face.

Comments
- Time: 30 mins.
- My tris were dominated.

- I touched the bar to my nose on the extensions. right or wrong?

TROJANNATION · 02-26-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gill998

- I touched the bar to my nose on the extensions. right or wrong?

Just go with whatever is comfortable for you

02-23-2008, 08:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
gill998 Procrastinating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 9,346 11790518	Gill and his shear thrills. It's time I made a log, with your guys help I hope I will be able to stick with a somewhat regular routine. I am planning on going with a 4 day split; back/bi, chest/tri, legs/?shoulders?, rest/run/heavybag. Leg day will be short, that's why I tossed shoulders in there, it may not be a good idea but I'll see as I go. I will get some measurements and weight tomorrow maybe. On to todays workout. BB Rows 105 x 5 105 x 5 DB Rows 55 x 9 55 x 9 BB Shrugs 135 x 8 135 x 8 BB Curls 55 x 8 55 x 7 Deadlifts 185 x 8 185 x 10 Comments:- Took 45 mins. - I was going slow to try and get form down so weights and number of sets are low. (especially on the shrugs) plus I was making the routine up as I went. - I did do Warm up sets however I never thought to write anything down at the time. - My arms were failing on BB rows before I felt anything in my back, thus the DB rows were added. If anyone has suggestions please share, I'm making this routine up on the fly. Reps if someone comes up with a better title, because the one I have now doesn't make much sense. __________________ ATM not so elite #38 STFU DRUGGIE GANG MEMBER When life gives you lemons, you say fuck the lemons and bail.

02-24-2008, 01:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
gill998 Procrastinating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 9,346 11790518	Measurements (R,L) Arms: 13.1 , 12.6 forearms 11.3 waist 31.5 chest 39.3 (across nipples(no homo)) Calf's 13.5 quads I wasnt sure where to measure them so I took from above the knee, just into teardrop. 17.5 , 18 AND just below the groin 22.5 , 22 Where is the correct spot? __________________ ATM not so elite #38 STFU DRUGGIE GANG MEMBER When life gives you lemons, you say fuck the lemons and bail.

02-26-2008, 11:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
gill998 Procrastinating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 9,346 11790518	Chest/tris BB Bench 35 x 12 55 x 10 75 x 9 75 x 8 75 x 10 75 x 8 75 x 7 Laying Triceps Extensions 35 x 7 35 x 8 35 x 7 I tried for 8 but the bar wouldn't leave my face. Comments* - Time: 30 mins. - My tris were dominated. - I touched the bar to my nose on the extensions. right or wrong? __________________ ATM not so elite #38 STFU DRUGGIE GANG MEMBER When life gives you lemons, you say fuck the lemons and bail.